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Product and Quotient Set Dominance in Finite Groups

Yuval Amit, Lucas Chen, Christopher Housholder, Joshua Im, Joshua Khan, Steven J. Miller, Mateo Palomares, Devayani Pradhan

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Abstract

We study product-set and quotient-set dominance in finite groups. For \(A\subseteq G\), set \[d(A)=|AA|-|AA^{-1}|.\] By translating the moments of \(d(A)\) into independent-set counts in associated forbiddance graphs, we obtain statistical criteria for determining whether a finite group has more product-dominant or quotient-dominant subsets. For a sequence of groups \(G_k\) with center size \(Z_k\), involution count \(T_k\), and \(R_k\) elements whose square is central, the condition \(Z_k=o(T_k)\) implies eventual product dominance, while \[T_k\,\sqrt{3}^{\,R_k/Z_k}=o(Z_k)\] implies eventual quotient dominance. These criteria resolve the Miller–Vissuet conjecture: every dihedral group \(D_n\), \(n\geq3\), is product-dominant. We also classify several major families, including symmetric groups, non-abelian finite simple groups, odd-order groups, and certain abelian groups, and derive a character-theoretic formula for the first moment outside the asymptotic regimes covered by the main criteria.

Contents

1 Introduction
    1.1 Main results
2 Proof of [prop:dom_ineq]
3 The first moment \(M_1\)
4 The second moment \(M_2\)
5 Proof of [thm:mptqresult]
6 Proof of [conj:miller_vissuet] and other applications
    6.1 Product-dominant groups
    6.2 Quotient-dominant groups
7 Computing \(M_1(G)\) by characters and conjugacy classes
8 Future work

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1 Introduction

Given a subset \(A \subseteq \{1,\dots,n\}\), we may compare the sizes of the sumset \[\begin{aligned} A+A\ =\ \{ a+a' : a,a' \in A\} \end{aligned}\] and the difference set \[\begin{aligned} A-A \ :=\ \{a -a' : a,a' \in A\}. \end{aligned}\] The study of subsets with \(|A+A| > |A-A|\) has long been of interest to additive number theorists (see [nathanson_history] for a history of the problem). In general, one expects to have \(|A+A|<|A-A|\), as addition is commutative while subtraction is not. Sets with \(|A+A| > |A-A|\) are called MSTD (more sums than differences) sets. While MSTD sets do exist (the smallest is attributed to J. H. Conway: \(\{0, 2, 3, 4, 7, 11, 12, 14\}\)), they typically make up only a small percentage of subsets of \(\{1,\dots,n\}\). For example, approximately \(0.038\%\) of subsets of \(\{1,\dots,24\}\) are MSTD. However, [martinobryant] showed the surprising fact that if \(\rho_n\) is the proportion of subsets of \(\{1,\dots,n\}\) which are MSTD, then \(\rho_n \geq 2\cdot 10^{-7}\) for all \(n \geq 14\).

A natural extension of the MSTD problem is found in studying the subsets of a finite group \(G\). Given a subset \(A \subseteq G\), we define the product set and quotient set as \[\begin{aligned} AA\ &:=\ \{xy \mid x,y \in A\}, \\ AA^{-1}\ &:=\ \{xy^{-1}\mid x,y \in A\} \end{aligned}\] respectively. A subset \(A \subseteq G\) is said to be MPTQ (more products than quotients) if \(|AA|>|AA^{-1}|\), MQTP if \(|AA|<|AA^{-1}|\), and balanced if \(|AA| = |AA^{-1}|\). The situation for groups is quite different from that of \(\{1,\dots,n\}\) for two reasons:

  1. Unlike the interval \(\{1,\dots,n\}\), a group is closed under multiplication and inverses.

  2. The intuition about the commutativity of addition versus the non-commutativity of subtraction vanishes for non-abelian groups.

The study of these sets in groups was initially explored in [nathanson_history] to find methods that could be applied to the classical MSTD problem. The author showed that MSTD sets in finite abelian groups could be lifted to construct infinite families of MSTD sets in the integers. [ZhaoGroups] subsequently found an asymptotic formula for the proportion of MSTD sets in finite abelian groups, and showed that if \(\{G_n\}\) is a sequence of finite abelian groups whose order goes to infinity, the proportion of subsets that are MSTD almost surely converges to zero. [miller_vissuet] generalized this to all finite groups by proving that as the size of a finite group gets arbitrarily large, the proportion of subset which are balanced converges to \(1\). In fact, the probability that the product set and quotient set both equal the entire group \(G_n\) converges to \(1\).

Recent research has pivoted to studying the behavior of the small proportion of sets that remain unbalanced. This includes exploring how the structure of non-abelian groups affects the behavior of unbalanced sets. Notably, [miller_vissuet] established a conjecture on the behavior of dihedral groups. We say that a group is product-dominant if it has more MPTQ sets than MQTP sets, and quotient-dominant if it has more MQTP than MPTQ sets.

All dihedral groups \(D_n\) for \(n \geq 3\) are product-dominant

[haviland] and [generalizeddihedral] studied generalized dihedral groups, providing strong evidence in favor of [conj:miller_vissuet]. We continue along this line by characterizing when large finite groups are product or quotient-dominant.

1.1 Main results

For a subset \(A \subseteq G\), let \[\begin{aligned} d(A)\ :=\ |AA| - |AA^{-1}|. \end{aligned}\] If \(A\subseteq G\) is chosen uniformly at random, we aim to understand the distribution of the random variable \(d(A)\). It is therefore natural to study the moments of \(d(A)\).

The \(r\)-th raw moment of \(d(A)\) is defined by \[\begin{aligned} \mu_r(G)\ :=\ \frac{1}{2^{|G|}}\sum_{A \subseteq G}(d(A))^r. \end{aligned}\] For ease of notation, we write \[\begin{aligned} M_r(G)\ :=\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}(d(A))^r\ =\ 2^{|G|}\mu_r(g). \end{aligned}\] Another useful statistic is the number of subsets which are balanced, meaning \(d(A)=0\). Let \[\begin{aligned} B(G)\ :=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: d(A)=0\}. \end{aligned}\] We occasionally write \(M_r:=M_r(G)\) and \(B:=B(G)\).

The statistical properties of moments (the first two moments in particular) and the number of balanced subsets can help us understand when a group is product or quotient-dominant. This idea is captured by the following key theorem:

Let \(G\) be a finite group, and suppose \[\begin{aligned} \frac{M_1^2}{(2^{|G|}-B)M_2}\ >\ \frac 12. \label{eq:dom_ineq} \end{aligned}\] Then,

  1. \(M_1>0 \ \implies\ G\) is product-dominant,

  2. \(M_1<0\ \implies\ G\) is quotient-dominant.

Our main result uses [prop:dom_ineq] to determine whether sufficiently large groups, under certain assumptions, are product or quotient-dominant.

If \(\{a_k\},\{b_k\}\) are two sequences, we say \(a_k = o(b_k)\) if \(\lim_{k \to \infty}\frac{a_k}{b_k}=0\).

Let \(\{G_k\}\) be a sequence of finite groups with \(|G_k| \to \infty\). Let \(Z(G_k)\) denote the center of \(G_k\), and define \[\begin{aligned} T_k\ &:=\ \# \{g \in G_k \mid g^2=1 \} \\ Z_k\ &:=\ \# \{ g \in G_k \mid g \in Z(G_k)\} \\ R_k\ & :=\ \#\{ g \in G_k \mid g^2 \in Z(G_k)\} \end{aligned}\] Then, we have the following properties.

  1. If \(Z_k = o(T_k)\), then \(G_k\) is product-dominant for sufficiently large \(k\).

  2. If \(T_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k} = o(Z_k)\), then \(G_k\) is quotient-dominant for sufficiently large \(k\).

This establishes that in many cases, the size of the center and the number of order-two elements of a group are what most heavily influences its dominance behavior. There are many notable families of groups which satisfy the conditions in [thm:mptqresult]. Some of these groups are studied in 6. We show that sufficiently large...

For dihedral groups in particular, we evaluate precisely when “sufficiently large” occurs. Then, with manual computation we confirm all smaller dihedral groups to prove [conj:miller_vissuet]. We also perform this deeper analysis for abelian groups.

For groups that do not satisfy the conditions of [thm:mptqresult] (dicyclic groups, for example), deeper study of the moments of \(d(A)\) is needed. Computation of \(M_1(G)\) in particular is important, as one must find whether [eq:dom_ineq] is satisfied, and if \(M_1>0\) or \(M_1<0\). In [thm:num_of_cycles_prod,thm:expthm], we establish an explicit formula for \(M_1(G)\) based on the irreducible characters and the conjugacy classes of \(G\).

Finally, we discuss future work, and in particular we mention special cases where \(M_1(G)>0\) while \(G\) is quotient-dominant, or \(M_1(G)<0\) while \(G\) is product-dominant. Groups with these properties cannot be studied via the methods of [prop:dom_ineq], making them potentially necessary and interesting to classify.

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2 Proof of [prop:dom_ineq]

[prop:dom_ineq], which is restated below, is a purely statistical fact, but it turns out to be useful for studying product/quotient-dominant behavior in finite groups.

Proof. We prove (i); the proof of (ii) is the same argument with the inequalities reversed. To prove \(G\) is product-dominant, we must show \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:mptq_prob_cond} P(d(A)>0) > P(d(A)<0) \end{aligned}\] where \(P\) denotes the probability over a uniformly chosen random subset \(A \subseteq G\). We use the shorthand \(P(d<0)\) and \(P(d>0)\). Let \(\mu_1\) be the expected value of \(d(A)\) and \(\sigma^2\) be the variance. Since \(M_1>0\) implies \(\mu_1>0\), Cantelli’s inequality gives \[\begin{aligned} P(d\leq 0)\ = P(d - \mu_1\leq -\mu_1)\ \leq\ \frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 +\mu_1^2}. \end{aligned}\] Hence, \[\begin{aligned} P(d>0)\ =\ 1-P(d\leq 0)\ \geq\ 1-\frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2}. \end{aligned}\] On the other hand, let \(\beta := P(d=0)=B/2^{|G|}\) be the proportion of balanced sets. Then, \[\begin{aligned} P(d<0)\ &=\ 1-P(d\geq 0)\ =\ 1-P(d=0)-P(d>0) \notag \\ &= 1-\beta-P(d>0) \leq 1- \beta -\left ( 1-\frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2} \right ) \notag \\ &= \frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2}-\beta. \end{aligned}\] Therefore, from [eq:mptq_prob_cond] we see \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:probv1} 1-\frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2} > \frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 +\mu_1^2}-\beta \ \implies\ G \text{ is product-dominant}. \end{aligned}\]

we may simplify the expression in [eq:probv1] by using the fact that \(\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2 = \mu_2\) (see [statproofbookSecondMoment], for example). This gives \[\begin{aligned} 1-\frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2}\ >\ \frac{\sigma^2}{\sigma^2 +\mu_1^2}-\beta \ &\iff\ 1+\beta\ >\ \frac{2 \sigma^2}{\sigma^2 + \mu_1^2} \notag \\ &\iff 1 +\beta \ >\ \frac{2\mu_2 - 2\mu_1^2}{\mu_2} \notag \\ &\iff \frac{2\mu_1^2}{\mu_2}\ >\ 1 -\beta \notag \\ &\iff \frac{2M_1^2}{M_2} \ >\ 2^{|G|} -B \notag \\ &\iff \frac{M_1^2}{(2^{|G|}-B)M_2} > \frac 12 \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

With this proposition in mind, we aim to find sufficient lower bounds for \(M_1\), and upper bounds for \(M_2\) and \(2^{|G|}-B\).

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3 The first moment \(M_1\)

For a set \(S \subseteq G\), let \(\mathbb 1_S\) be the incidence function \[\begin{aligned} \mathbb 1_S(g)\ :=\ \begin{cases}1 & g \in S \\ 0 & g \not \in S.\end{cases} \end{aligned}\] Then, we use the fact that \[\begin{aligned} |S| = \sum_{g \in G}\mathbb 1_{S}(g) \end{aligned}\] to obtain the equality \[\begin{aligned} M_1(G)\ =&\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}d(A) \ =\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}|AA| - |AA^{-1}| \notag \\=&\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}\sum_{g \in G}(\mathbb 1_{AA}(g) - \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(g)) \notag \\ =&\ \sum_{g \in G}\sum_{A \subseteq G}\left ( \mathbb 1_{AA}(g) - \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(g) \right ) . \notag \\ =&\ \sum_{g \in G}\left [ \# \{ A \subseteq G:g \in AA\} -\# \{ A \subseteq G : g \in AA^{-1}\} \right ] \notag \\ =&\ \sum_{g \in G}\left [ \left ( 2^{|G|} - \# \{ A: g \not \in AA\} \right ) - \left ( 2^{|G|} - \# \{A:g \not \in AA^{-1}\} \right ) \right ] \notag \\ =&\ \sum_{g \in G}\left [ \#\{A:g \not \in AA^{-1}\} - \# \{ A : g \not \in AA\} \right ] . \label{eq:exp_breakdown} \end{aligned}\] To compute the two cardinalities in [eq:exp_breakdown], we turn to a graph-theoretic construction first explored in [ZhaoGroups].

Let \(G\) be a group. A forbiddance graph is a graph whose vertices are the elements of \(G\), with an edge \(x \to y\) whenever \(x\) and \(y\) satisfy a predetermined product or quotient relationship with respect to some fixed element(s) of \(G\). In particular, for fixed \(g,h \in G\), we define the forbiddance graphs \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) and \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\), with edges defined by: \[\begin{aligned} &\mathcal F_P(g) \text{ has } x \to y \text{ whenever } xy=g , \\ &\mathcal F_Q(g) \text{ has } x \to y \text{ whenever } xy^{-1}=g . \end{aligned}\]

For a directed or undirected graph \(\Gamma=(V,E)\), a set \(A\subseteq V\) is said to be an independent set if no two \(x,y \in A\) are connected via an edge. The number of independent sets of \(\Gamma\) is denoted \(i(\Gamma)\).

Let \(G = S_3\), and \(g = (1\:2\:3)\). Then the following is a depiction of \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) with an example independent set boxed and colored in red.

\[\begin{tikzcd}[ampersand replacement=\&,cramped,column sep=tiny, row sep=small] \& \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(1\:3\:4)}}} \&\&\& {(3\:4)} \&\&\& \\ {(1\:4)(2\:3)} \&\& {(1\:2)(3\:4)} \& {(1\:2\:3\:4)} \&\& {(1\:2\:4\:3)} \& {(1\:4\:3)} \\ \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(1\:4\:2)}}} \&\& \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(2\:4\:3)}}} \& {(1\:4)} \&\& \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(2\:4)}}} \&\& \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(1\:2\:4)}}} \\ \& {(1\:3)(2\:4)} \&\&\& {(1\:4\:2\:3)} \&\& {(2\:3\:4)} \\ \& {(1\:4\:3\:2)} \&\& \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{e}}} \& {(1\:3\:2)} \&\& {(1\:2)} \\ \textcolor{rgb,255:red,214;green,92;blue,92}{{\boxed{(1\:3\:4\:2)}}} \&\& {(1\:3\:2\:4)} \& {(1\:2\:3)} \&\& {(1\:3)} \&\& {(2\:3)} \arrow[from=1-2, to=2-3] \arrow[from=1-5, to=2-6] \arrow[from=2-1, to=1-2] \arrow[from=2-3, to=3-3] \arrow[from=2-4, to=1-5] \arrow[from=2-6, to=3-6] \arrow[from=2-7, to=3-8] \arrow[from=3-1, to=2-1] \arrow[from=3-3, to=4-2] \arrow[from=3-4, to=2-4] \arrow[from=3-6, to=4-5] \arrow[from=3-8, to=4-7] \arrow[from=4-2, to=3-1] \arrow[from=4-5, to=3-4] \arrow[from=4-7, to=2-7] \arrow[from=5-2, to=6-3] \arrow[curve={height=-6pt}, from=5-4, to=6-4] \arrow[from=5-5, to=5-5, loop, in=235, out=305, distance=10mm] \arrow[from=5-7, to=6-8] \arrow[from=6-1, to=5-2] \arrow[from=6-3, to=6-1] \arrow[curve={height=-6pt}, from=6-4, to=5-4] \arrow[from=6-6, to=5-7] \arrow[from=6-8, to=6-6] \end{tikzcd}\]

The number of independent sets of a graph is, in some cases, well understood (see [ZHAO_indep_sets], [ZhaoGroups], [zhao_strong_indep]). Therefore, graph-theoretic results on the number of independent sets can be applied to our problem in the following sense:

For a finite group \(G\), and \(g \in G\), \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ &=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: g \not \in AA\} \label{eq:prod_indep_id} \\ i(\mathcal F_Q(g))\ &=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: g \not \in AA^{-1}\} .\label{eq:quot_indep_id} \end{aligned}\]

These equalities follow from the clear bijection between subsets of \(A\) excluding \(g\), and independent sets of the corresponding forbiddance graph. We therefore obtain the following expression for \(M_1(G)\):

For a finite group \(G\), we have \[\begin{aligned} M_1(G)\ =\ \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g)). \label{eq:M1_sum} \end{aligned}\]

Proof. Follows from [eq:exp_breakdown], [eq:prod_indep_id], and [eq:quot_indep_id]. ◻

We study a few properties of \(\mathcal F_{Q}(g)\) and \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) to aid our later analysis.

For any \(g \in G\), both \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\) and \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) are disjoint unions of cycle graphs.

Proof. For \(x \in G\), define \[\begin{aligned} q_g(x)\ :=\ q_g^{(1)}(x)\ :=\ g^{-1}x, \quad \quad &q_g^{(n)}(x)\ :=\ q_g(q_g^{(n-1)}(x)), \\ p_g(x)\ :=\ p_g^{(1)}(x)\ :=\ x^{-1}g, \quad \quad &p_g^{(n)}(x)\ :=\ p_g(p_g^{(n-1)}(x)). \end{aligned}\] Then, \(y=q_g(x)\) is the unique element satisfying \(xy^{-1}=g\), and similarly, \(y=p_g^{(1)}(x)\) is the unique element satisfying \(xy=g\). Thus, the forbiddance graph \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\) locally around \(x\) looks like \[x \to q_g^{(1)}(x) \to q_g^{(2)}(x) \to \cdots,\] and this path must eventually loop back around to \(x\), since \(q_g^{(1)}\) is a bijection and \(G\) is finite. The same holds for \(p_g^{(1)}\). It follows that both forbiddance graphs are composed of disjoint cycles. ◻

As the functions \(q_g^{(n)}(x)\) and \(p_g^{(n)}(x)\) will be of importance later, we prove the following formula:

For any \(n \geq 1\), \[\begin{aligned} q_g^{(n)}(x) = g^{-n}x. \end{aligned}\] Moreover, \[\begin{aligned} p_g^{(2n-1)}(x)\ &=\ g^{-n+1}x^{-1}g^{n}, \label{eq:pg_odd_form} \\ p_g^{(2n)}(x)\ &= \ g^{-n}xg^n .\label{eq:pg_even_form} \end{aligned}\]

Proof. The claim follows by induction. The base case for \(q_g^{(1)}\) is by definition, and then \[\begin{aligned} q_g^{(n)}(x)\ =\ q_g^{(1)}(q_g^{(n-1)}(x))\ =\ g^{-1}(g^{-(n-1)}x)\ =\ g^{-n}x. \end{aligned}\] For \(p_g\), the base case \(p_g^{(1)}\) is by definition. Then, \[\begin{aligned} p_g^{(2n)}(x)\ &=\ p_g(p_g^{(2n-1)}(x))\ =\ p_g(g^{-n+1}x^{-1}g^n) \notag \\ &=\ (g^{-n+1}x^{-1}g^n)^{-1}g\ =\ g^{-n}xg^n, \end{aligned}\] and \[\begin{aligned} p^{(2n+1)}_g(x)&=p_g(p_g^{(2n)}(x))=p_g(g^{-n}xg^n) \notag \\ &=(g^{-n}xg^n)g=g^{-n}x^{-1}g^{n+1}, \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

It is known that the number of independent sets of a cycle graph of length \(n\) is \(L_n\), where \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:lucas_numbs} L_n = \begin{cases}1 & n =1 \\ 3 & n=2 \\ L_{n-1}+L_{n-2} & n>2\end{cases} \end{aligned}\] is the \(n\)-th Lucas number. Moreover, if \(\Gamma \ := \Gamma_1 \sqcup \Gamma_2\) is the disjoint union of two component graphs, then \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:indeps_in_disj_graphs} i(\Gamma)\ =\ i(\Gamma_1)\cdot i(\Gamma_2). \end{aligned}\] See [ZhaoGroups] for proofs. Thus, to find the number of independent sets of \(i(\mathcal F_P(g))\) and \(i (\mathcal F_Q(g))\), we must compute the lengths of their component cycles.

We first record [ZhaoGroups] in the present notation. Its short proof is included because the cycle decomposition will be used repeatedly.

For a finite group \(G\), and \(g \in G\), \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_{Q}(g))\ =\ L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{|G|/\operatorname{ord}(g)}. \end{aligned}\]

Proof. By [lem:pgqg_forms], the cycle containing \(x\) in \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\) has length equal to the least \(\ell\geq1\) for which \(g^{-\ell}x=x\), namely \(\operatorname{ord}(g)\). Hence \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\) is the disjoint union of \(|G|/\operatorname{ord}(g)\) cycles of length \(\operatorname{ord}(g)\). Using [rmk:lucas_forbiddance], \[i(\mathcal F_Q(g))=L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{|G|/\operatorname{ord}(g)}.\] This is the formulation of [ZhaoGroups] needed below. ◻

To understand the behavior of \(i(\mathcal F_{Q}(g))\) (and later \(i(\mathcal F_P(g))\)), we aim to know when it is maximized (i.e. what graph configuration yields the highest number of independent sets). For this, we have the following lemma.

Let \(N\) be a positive integer, and let \(a_1,\dots,a_j\) be positive integers with \(a_i\neq 2\) for all \(i\), and \(a_1+\cdots + a_j = N\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} L_{a_1}\cdot L_{a_2}\cdots L_{a_j}\ \leq \ 7^{N/4}. \end{aligned}\]

Proof. Let \(\phi = \frac{1+\sqrt 5}{2}\) be the golden ratio. It is well known that \[\begin{aligned} L_n\ =\ \phi^n + (1-\phi)^n, \end{aligned}\] where notably \(|1-\phi|<1\), so \(L_n \sim \phi^n\). Moreover, since \(1-\phi <0\), one sees that \(L_n > \phi^n \iff n\) is even. Thus, as \(L_4=7\), and \((1-\phi)^n < (1-\phi)^4\) for all \(n>4\), we obtain that \[\begin{aligned} L_n\ \leq\ \left ( 7^{1/4} \right ) ^n \end{aligned}\] for all \(n \geq 4\). This inequality also holds for \(L_1\) and \(L_3\). Thus, as \(a_i \neq 2\) for all \(i\), we have \[\begin{aligned} \prod_{i=1}^jL_{a_i}\ \leq \ \prod_{i=1}^j 7^{a_i/4}\ =\ 7^{N/4}. \end{aligned}\] ◻

The exclusion of \(a_i=2\) is important here, as a graph with \(N/2\) two-cycles has \(3^{N/2}\gg 7^{N/4}\) independent sets. We use this fact to show that, loosely speaking, group elements \(g\) with \(\mathcal F_Q(g)\) or \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) composed almost entirely of two-cycles have the greatest contribution in terms of number of independent sets.

Let \(G\) be a finite group of size \(N\), and let \(T\) be the number of elements of \(G\) with order \(2\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g))\ =\ T \cdot \sqrt 3^{N} + (N-T)\cdot O(7^{N/4}). \end{aligned}\]

Proof. By [lem:FQ_form], \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g))\ &=\ \sum_{g \in G}L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{N/\operatorname{ord}(g)}\ \notag \\ &=\ \, \sum_{\mathclap{\substack{g \in G \\ \operatorname{ord}(g)=2}}} \:L_2^{N/2} + \: \: \sum_{\mathclap{\substack{g \in G \\ \operatorname{ord}(g) \neq 2}}} \: L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{N/\operatorname{ord}(g)} \notag \\ &=\ T \sqrt 3^N + \: \: \sum_{\mathclap{\substack{g \in G \\ \operatorname{ord}(g) \neq 2}}}\: L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{N/\operatorname{ord}(g)}. \end{aligned}\] By [lem:lucas_asym], every term in the summation above is \(O(7^{N/4})\). Thus, \[\begin{aligned} \sum _{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g))\ =\ T\cdot \sqrt 3^N + (N-T)\cdot O(7^{N/4}), \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

Understanding \(i(\mathcal F_P(g))\) is more difficult, since the length of a cycle containing \(x\in G\) depends on the minimal \(\ell>1\) satisfying [eq:pg_odd_form] or [eq:pg_even_form]. However, the number of independent sets is still a product of Lucas numbers whose indices sum to \(|G|\), as in [lem:lucas_asym]. Since [cor:FQ_asym] demonstrated that the \(2\)-cycles give the dominant contribution, we study the \(2\)-cycles in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) as well.

Let \(G\) be a finite group of size \(N\) with center \(Z(G)\). Let \(Z:=|Z(G)|\), and let \[\begin{aligned} R:=\#\{x \in G: x^2 \in Z(G)\}. \end{aligned}\] Then, \[\begin{aligned} Z\cdot \sqrt 3^{N-R/Z} +(N-Z)\cdot O(1.68^N) \ \leq \ \sum _{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g)) \ \leq\ Z\cdot \sqrt 3^N + (N-Z)\cdot O(1.68^N). \label{eq:FP_asym} \end{aligned}\]

Proof. Suppose \(g \in Z(G)\). By [eq:pg_even_form], \(p_g^{(2)}(x) = g^{-1}xg\). Thus, as \(gx=xg\), we know every \(x\in G\) is contained in either a \(1\)-cycle or a \(2\)-cycle in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) by the proof of [lem:disjoint_cycles]. In particular, \(x\) is contained in a \(2\)-cycle if and only if \(p_g^{(1)}(x)\neq x\), which is equivalent to \(x^2=g\). Let \[\begin{aligned} r(g)\ :=\ \# \{x \in G: x^2=g\}. \end{aligned}\] Then, the forbiddance graph \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) is composed of \(r(g)\) \(1\)-cycles, and \(\left ( \frac{N-r(g)}{2} \right )\) \(2\)-cycles. Therefore, for any \(g \in Z(G)\), \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ =\ L_1^{r(g)}\cdot L_2^{\frac{N-r(g)}{2}}\ =\ \sqrt 3^{N-r(g)}. \end{aligned}\] On the other hand, for \(g \not \in Z(G)\), the number of \(2\)-cycles in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) is bounded above by the number of elements which commute with \(g\), i.e. \(|Z(g)|\). Thus, \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_P(g)) \ \leq\ \sqrt 3^{|Z(g)|}\cdot O\left ( 7^{(N-|Z(g)|)/4} \right ) \end{aligned}\] from [lem:lucas_asym]. Since \(7^{n/4}\ll\sqrt 3^n\), the RHS is maximized when \(|Z(g)|\) is maximized. By the assumption that \(g \not \in Z(G)\), we know \(Z(g)\) is a proper subgroup, hence \(|Z(g)| \leq N/2\). Therefore, \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ \leq\ \sqrt 3^{N/2}\cdot O(7^{N/8}) \ =\ O(1.68^N). \end{aligned}\] We therefore get \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ &= \sum_{g \in Z(G)}\sqrt 3^{N-r(g)} + \sum_{g \not \in Z(G)}O(1.68^N). \label{eq:FP_true_sum} \end{aligned}\] since \(\sqrt 3^{N-r(g)}\leq \sqrt 3^N\), we have \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ \leq\ Z\cdot \sqrt 3^N + (N-Z)\cdot O(1.68^N), \end{aligned}\] which is the second inequality in [eq:FP_asym]. To obtain the lower bound, observe that \(f(x):=\sqrt 3^{N-x}\) is a convex function. Therefore, by Jensen’s inequality, \[\begin{aligned} \frac{1}{Z}\sum_{g \in Z(G)}\sqrt 3^{N-r(g)}\ \geq\ \sqrt 3^{ N-\frac 1Z\sum_{g \in Z(G)}r(g)}\ =\ \sqrt 3^{N-R/Z}. \end{aligned}\] Thus, by [eq:FP_true_sum], \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ \geq\ Z\cdot \sqrt 3^{N-R/Z} + (N-Z) \cdot O(1.68^N) \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

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4 The second moment \(M_2\)

Similar to the first moment, we reduce the study of the second moment to evaluating the number of independent sets of forbiddance graphs.

We define three more forbiddance graphs as in [def:forb_1]. Once again, the vertices of these graphs are the elements of \(G\), and for a fixed \(g,h \in G\) we define \[\begin{aligned} &\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h) \text{ has } x \to y \text{ whenever } xy=g \text{ or } xy=h, \\ &\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h) \text{ has } x \to y \text{ whenever } xy^{-1}=g \text{ or } xy^{-1}=h, \\ &\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h) \text{ has } x \to y \text{ whenever } xy=g \text{ or } xy^{-1}=h. \end{aligned}\]

Similar to before, the number of independent sets of these forbiddance graphs relates to cardinalities of subsets satisfying certain element exclusion properties. For a finite group \(G\), and \(g,h \in G\), \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))\ &=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: g \not \in AA, h \not \in AA\}, \\ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))\ &=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: g \not \in AA^{-1}, h \not \in AA^{-1}\}, \\ i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h))\ &=\ \# \{A \subseteq G: g \not \in AA, h \not \in AA^{-1}\}. \end{aligned}\]

Recall \(M_2(G):= \sum_{A \subseteq G}(d(A))^2\). For any finite group \(G\), \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G) = \sum_{g,h \in G}\left [ i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))+ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))- 2 i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h)) \right ] . \end{aligned}\]

Proof. We proceed similarly to the first moment. Let \(p(A) := |AA|\) and \(q(A):= |AA^{-1}|\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G)\ :=&\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}(p(A) - q(A))^2\ =\ \sum_{A \subseteq G}\left [ p(A)^2+q(A)^2 - 2p(A)q(A) \right ] . \label{eq:binomvar} \end{aligned}\] note that \[\begin{aligned} p(A)^2\ =&\ \ \left ( \sum_{x}\mathbb 1_{AA}(x) \right ) ^2 = \sum_{g,h}\mathbb 1_{AA}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA}(h), \\ q(A)^2\ =&\ \ \left ( \sum_{x}\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(x) \right ) ^2\ =\ \sum_{g,h}\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h), \\ p(A)q(A)\ =&\ \ \left ( \sum_{g}\mathbb 1_{AA}(g) \right ) \left ( \sum_{h}\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h) \right ) \ =\ \sum_{g,h}\mathbb 1_{AA}(g) \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h). \end{aligned}\] Thus, we rewrite [eq:binomvar] as \[\begin{aligned} &\ \ \sum_{A \subseteq G} \sum_{g,h}\left [ \mathbb 1_{AA}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA}(h) + \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h) - 2\cdot \mathbb 1_{AA}(g) \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h) \right ] \notag \\ =&\ \ \sum_{g,h}\sum_{A \subseteq G}\left [ \mathbb 1_{AA}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA}(h) + \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(g)\mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h) - 2\cdot \mathbb 1_{AA}(g) \mathbb 1_{AA^{-1}}(h) \right ] \notag \\ =&\ \ \sum_{g,h}\left [ \# \{ A: g,h \in AA\} + \#\{A: g, h \in AA^{-1}\} -2 \# \{ A: g \in AA, h \in AA^{-1}\} \right ] . \label{eq:varandsets} \end{aligned}\]

to obtain the expressions in [rmk:two_elm_indep], we use the inclusion-exclusion principle: \[\begin{aligned} \# \{ A: g,h \in AA\}\ =&\ \ 2^{|G|}-\# \{ A: g\not \in AA \text{ or } h \not \in AA\} \notag \\ =&\ \ 2^{|G|}-\#\{A: g \not \in AA\} - \#\{A: h \not \in AA\} \notag \\ &+\ \#\{ A: g \not \in AA \text{ and } h \not \in AA\} \notag \\ =&\ \ 2^{|G|}-i(\mathcal F_{P}(g)) - i(\mathcal F_{P}(h)) + i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h)), \label{eq:varprod} \end{aligned}\] and similarly \[\begin{aligned} \# \{ A:g,h\in AA^{-1}\}\ =&\ \ 2^{|G|}-i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_Q(h)) + i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h)), \label{eq:varquot} \\ \# \{A: g \in AA,h \in AA^{-1}\}\ =&\ \ 2^{|G|} - i(\mathcal F_P(g)) - i(\mathcal F_Q(h)) + i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h)). \label{eq:varboth} \end{aligned}\] Plugging these into [eq:varandsets] yields (after rearranging and canceling) \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G)\ =\ &\sum_{g,h}\left [ i(\mathcal F_P(g))- i(\mathcal F_P(h))+ i(\mathcal F_Q(h))-i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) \right ] \label{eq:varsingles} \\ &+ \sum_{g,h}\left [ i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))+ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))- 2 i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h)) \right ] \label{eq:vardoubles} \end{aligned}\] Notice that the entire sum in [eq:varsingles] cancels, and so we are left with \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G)\ =\ \sum_{g,h}\left [ i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))+ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))- 2 i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h)) \right ] \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

we aim to find upper bounds for \(M_2(G)\) to satisfy [prop:dom_ineq]. From [lem:2nd_mom], we may rewrite \(M_2(G)\) as \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G)\ =&\ \ \sum_{g \in G}\left [ i (\mathcal F_{P}(g)) + i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - 2i\left ( \mathcal F_{PQ}(g,g) \right ) \right ] \label{eq:M2_singles} \\ &+ \sum_{g\neq h \in G}\left [ i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))+ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))- 2 i(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h)) \right ] \label{eq:M2_doubles} \end{aligned}\]

It will ultimately suffice to remove the negative terms from [eq:M2_singles] and [eq:M2_doubles], so \[\begin{aligned} M_2(G)\ \leq &\ \ \sum_{g \in G}i (\mathcal F_{P}(g)) + \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) \label{eq:M2_less_singles} \\ &+ \sum_{g\neq h \in G}i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))+ \sum_{g \neq h \in G}i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h)). \label{eq:M2_less_doubles} \end{aligned}\]

The behavior of the two sums in [eq:M2_less_singles] was studied in [lem:FP_asym] and [cor:FQ_asym]. The two sums in [eq:M2_less_doubles] are bounded in the following lemma:

For any finite group \(G\), given \(g\neq h \in G\), we have \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))\ \leq\ 19^{N/6}, \label{eq:FPP_bound} \\ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))\ \leq\ 19^{N/6}. \label{eq:FQQ_bound} \end{aligned}\]

Proof. When \(g \neq h\), note that \[\begin{aligned} p_g(x)\ &=\ x^{-1}g\ \neq\ x^{-1}h\ =\ p_h(x) , \\q_g(x)\ &=\ g^{-1}x\ \neq \ h^{-1}x\ = \ q_h(x) \end{aligned}\] so every vertex in \(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h)\) and \(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h)\) connects to at least two distinct vertices, possibly including itself. Since a self-adjacent vertex cannot be included in any independent set, we can remove all self-adjacent vertices from \(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h)\) and \(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h)\). Let \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{PP}(g,h)\) be the simple, undirected graph corresponding to \(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h)\) with all self-adjacent vertices removed, and define \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{QQ}(g,h)\) similarly. It follows that \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h))\ =\ i(\overline{\mathcal F}_{PP}(g,h)), \\ i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h))\ =\ i(\overline{\mathcal F}_{QQ}(g,h)). \end{aligned}\] Moreover, both \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{PP}(g,h)\) and \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{QQ}(g,h)\) have the property that the degree \(d_x\) of each vertex \(x\) is restricted to either \(2,3\), or \(4\), since there must be between \(2\) to \(4\) elements \(y \in G\) with \[\begin{aligned} xy = g, \text{ or } xy=h, \text{ or } yx=g, \text{ or } yx=h, \end{aligned}\] and similar for the quotient. We use the following result to obtain an upper bound on the number of independent sets of these graphs.

] Let \(\Gamma=(V,E)\) be a simple, undirected graph with no isolated vertices. Let \(d_v\) be the degree of a vertex \(v \in V\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} i(\Gamma) \ \leq \ \prod_{uv \in E} \left ( 2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1 \right ) ^{\frac{1}{d_ud_v}} . \label{eq:zhao_strong_indep} \end{aligned}\]

Let \(\Gamma = (V,E)\) be a simple, undirected graph with no isolated vertices such that \(2 \leq d_v \leq 4\) for all \(v \in V\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} i(\Gamma)\ \leq\ 19^{|V|/6}. \end{aligned}\]

Proof. To find an upper bound for the expression in [eq:zhao_strong_indep], note that \[\begin{aligned} \log \left ( \prod_{uv \in E} \left ( 2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1 \right ) ^{\frac{1}{d_ud_v}} \right ) \ =\ \sum_{uv \in E}\frac{\log(2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1)}{d_ud_v}. \end{aligned}\] We wish to use the graph-theoretic identity \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{uv \in E}\frac{1}{d_u}+\frac{1}{d_v}=|V|, \end{aligned}\] so we want the minimal constant \(c\) with \[\begin{aligned} \frac{\log(2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1)}{d_ud_v} \ \leq \ c\left ( \frac{1}{d_u}+\frac{1}{d_v} \right ) , \end{aligned}\] which is equivalent to \[\begin{aligned} \frac{\log(2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1)}{d_u+d_v}\leq c. \label{eq:logfraclessc} \end{aligned}\] Since \(d_u,d_v\) are limited to \(\{2,3,4\}\), one can compute that a maximum for the LHS in [eq:logfraclessc] is obtained with \(d_u=2,d_v=4\), so we set \(c=\log(19)/6\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{uv \in E}\frac{\log(2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1)}{d_ud_v}\ \leq\ \frac{\log(19)}{6}\sum_{uv \in E}\frac{1}{d_u}+\frac{1}{d_v}\ = \frac{\log (19)}{6}|V|, \end{aligned}\] hence \[\begin{aligned} i(\Gamma)\ \leq\ \exp\left ( \sum_{uv \in E}\frac{\log (2^{d_u}+2^{d_v}-1)}{d_ud_v} \right ) \ \leq\ \exp\left ( \frac{\log (19)}{6}|V| \right ) \ =\ 19^{|V|/6}, \end{aligned}\] as claimed. ◻

Finally, [eq:FPP_bound] and [eq:FQQ_bound] follow from [cor:Zhao_strong_indep] applied to \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{PP}(g,h)\) and \(\overline{\mathcal F}_{QQ}(g,h)\). ◻

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5 Proof of [thm:mptqresult]

We are now sufficiently equipped to prove [thm:mptqresult].

Proof. Let \(N_k := |G_k|\). To prove that sufficiently large \(G_k\) are product or quotient-dominant, it suffices to verify the inequality \[\begin{aligned} \frac{1}{2}<\frac{(M_1(G_k))^2}{(2^{N_k}-B(G_k))\cdot (M_2(G_k))} \end{aligned}\] from [prop:dom_ineq].

Let \[\begin{aligned} P_k\ :=\ \sum_{g \in G_k}i(\mathcal F_{P}(g)), \quad &\quad \quad Q_k \ :=\ \sum_{g \in G_k}i(\mathcal F_Q(g)), \\ PP_k :=\ \sum_{g\neq h \in G_k}i(\mathcal F_{PP}(g,h)), \quad &\quad \quad QQ_k :=\ \sum_{g\neq h \in G_k}i(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g,h)). \end{aligned}\] Then, \[\begin{aligned} M_1(G_k)\ &=\ Q_k-P_k \label{eq:M1_in_terms} \\ M_2(G_k)\ &\leq\ Q_k+P_k+QQ_k+PP_k \label{eq:M2_in_terms} \\ 2^{N_k}-B(G_k)\ &\leq\ Q_k+P_k. \label{eq:B_in_terms} \end{aligned}\]

Proof. [eq:M1_in_terms] is immediate from [lem:M1_sum], and [eq:M2_in_terms] was shown in [eq:M2_less_singles] and [eq:M2_less_doubles]. Finally, [eq:B_in_terms] is a fact for any group \(G\), as \[\begin{aligned} 2^{|G|}-B(G)\ &=\ 2^{|G|} - \# \{ A \subseteq G:d(A)=0\} \notag \\ & \leq\ 2^{|G|} -\# \{ A: AA=AA^{-1}=G\} \notag \\ &=\ \# \{ A: \exists g \not \in AA \text{ or } \exists h \not \in AA^{-1}\} \notag \\ &\leq\ \sum_{g \in G}\# \{ A: g \not \in AA \text{ or } g \not \in AA^{-1}\} \notag \\ &=\ \sum _{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_{P}(g)) + i(\mathcal F_{Q}(g)) - i (\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,g)) \notag \\ &\leq\ \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g)) + i (\mathcal F_{Q}(g)) \end{aligned}\] ◻

To prove statement (i) of the theorem, suppose \(Z_k = o(T_k)\). Recall from [cor:FQ_asym] that \[\begin{aligned} Q_k\ =\ T_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k} + (N_k-T_k) \cdot O(7^{{N_k}/4})\ =\ T_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k} + (N_k-T_k) \cdot O(1.68^{N_k}), \end{aligned}\] where the second equality follows from \(7^{1/4}<1.68\). Moreover, from [lem:FP_asym] we have \[\begin{aligned} P_k\ \leq \ Z_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k} + (N_k-Z_k)\cdot O(1.68^{N_k}). \end{aligned}\] we informally write (for the purposes of plugging this into [eq:prod_final_ineq]) \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty}M_1(G_k)\ =& \ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}Q_k - P_k \notag \\ \geq& \ \ \lim _{k \to \infty}\left ( (T_k-Z_k)\sqrt 3^{N_k}+ (Z_k-T_k)\cdot O(1.68^{N_k}) \right ) \notag \\ =& \ \ \lim_{k \to \infty} T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k} \left ( \left ( 1-\frac{Z_k}{T_k} \right ) + \left ( \frac{Z_k}{T_k}-1 \right ) \frac{O(1.68^{N_k})}{\sqrt 3^{N_k}} \right ) \notag \\ =& \ \ \lim_{k \to \infty} T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k} \label{eq:M1_mptq_lim} \end{aligned}\] by the assumption that \(Z_k = o(T_k)\), and the fact that \(1.68 < \sqrt 3\). This also establishes that \(M_1>0\), so we may proceed with case (i) of [prop:dom_ineq]. Similarly, \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{ k \to \infty}\left ( 2^{N_k}-B_k \right ) \ \leq&\ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}Q_k + P_k \notag \\ \leq& \ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}\left ( (T_k+Z_k)\sqrt 3^{N_k} + (2N_k-T_k-Z_k)\cdot O(1.68^{N_k}) \right ) \notag \\ =& \ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}\left ( \left ( 1 + \frac{Z_k}{T_k} \right ) + \left ( 2\frac{N_k}{T_k}-1-\frac{Z_k}{T_k} \right ) \frac{O(1.68^{N_k})}{\sqrt 3^{N_k}} \right ) \notag \\ =&\ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}T_k \sqrt 3^{N_k}. \end{aligned}\] Finally, \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty} M_2(G_k)\ =&\ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}\left ( Q_k + P_k + QQ_k + PP_k \right ) \notag \\ =&\ \ \lim _{k \to \infty}T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k} + QQ_k + PP_k \notag \\ \leq &\ \ \lim _{k \to \infty} T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}+2N_k^2\cdot19^{N_k/6} \notag \\ =&\ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}\left ( 1+\frac{2N_k^2\cdot 19^{N_k/6}}{T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}} \right ) \notag \\ =&\ \ \lim_{k \to \infty}T_k \sqrt 3^{N_k}, \end{aligned}\] since \(19^{1/6}<\sqrt 3\). We thus conclude that \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:prod_final_ineq} \lim _{k \to \infty}\frac{(M_1(G_k))^2}{(2^{N_k}-B_k)\cdot M_2(G_k)}\ \geq\ \lim_{k \to \infty} \frac{\left ( T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k} \right ) ^2}{T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}\cdot T_k\sqrt 3^{N_k}}=1>1/2, \end{aligned}\] hence by [prop:dom_ineq], \(G_k\) is product-dominant for sufficiently large \(k\).

for case (ii) of the theorem, suppose \(T_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k} = o(Z_k)\). By [lem:FP_asym], \[\begin{aligned} P_k\ \geq \ Z_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k-R_k/Z_k} + (N_k-Z_k)\cdot O(1.68^{N_k}). \end{aligned}\] Since every element \(g \in Z_k\) has \(g^2 \in Z_k\), we have \(R_k\geq Z_k\), and therefore \(T_k = o(Z_k)\) as well.

Thus, \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty}M_1(G_k)\ &=\ \lim_{k \to \infty}Q_k-P_k \notag \\ &\leq\ \lim_{k \to \infty} T_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k}-Z_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k-R_k/Z_k}+(Z_k-T_k)\cdot O(1.68^{N_k}) \notag \\ &=\ \lim_{k \to \infty} Z_k\sqrt 3^{N_k-R_k/Z_k}\left ( \frac{T_k\cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}}{Z_k}-1+\left ( 1-\frac{T_k}{Z_k} \right ) \cdot\frac{O(1.68^{N_k})}{\sqrt 3^{N_k-R_k/Z_k}} \right ) \notag \\ &=\ \lim_{k \to \infty} Z_k \sqrt 3^{N_k - R_k/Z_k}\left ( -1 + \frac{O(1.68^{N_k}) \cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}}{\sqrt 3^{N_k}} \right ) . \end{aligned}\] By the assumption that \(T_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}=o(Z_k)\), we know that for \(k\) sufficiently large, \[\begin{aligned} 0 \leq T_k < Z_k\leq N_k, \end{aligned}\] If \(T_k\geq 1\), it follows that \[\begin{aligned} \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}\leq N_k. \end{aligned}\] On the other hand, if \(T_k=0\), then \(G_k\) has no order-\(2\) elements, and therefore must have odd order. If \(x^2 \in Z(G_k)\), then \(\overline x^2 = \overline e\) in the quotient group \(G_k / Z(G_k)\), but this quotient group has odd order as well, so it must be that \(\overline x = \overline e\), hence \(x \in Z(G_k)\). Thus, \(R_k/Z_k=1\), so \[\begin{aligned} \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}=\sqrt 3. \end{aligned}\] In any case, we may assume \(\sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}\leq N_k\) for \(k\) sufficiently large, and then \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty}\frac{O(1.68^{N_k}) \cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}}{\sqrt 3^{N_k}} \leq \lim_{ k \to \infty}\frac{O(1.68^{N_k}) \cdot N_k}{\sqrt 3^{N_k}}\ =\ 0. \end{aligned}\] Therefore, \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty}M_1(G_k)\ =-\lim_{k \to \infty}Z_k \sqrt 3^{N_k-R_k/Z_k}. \end{aligned}\] Hence, for \(k\) sufficiently large, \(M_1(G_k)<0\), and we may proceed with case (ii) of [prop:dom_ineq]. The analysis above showed that \(P_k\) dominates over \(Q_k\), and its terms of the form \(\sqrt 3^x\) dominate \(QQ_k\) and \(PP_k\) as well by [lem:double_bound]. Hence, one sees that, similar to the first case, \[\begin{aligned} \lim_{k \to \infty}\frac{(Q_k-P_k)^2}{(Q_k+P_k)(Q_k+P_k+QQ_k+PP_k)}\ = \ 1\ >\ 1/2, \end{aligned}\] thus \(G_k\) is quotient-dominant for sufficiently large \(k\). ◻

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6 Proof of [conj:miller_vissuet] and other applications

6.1 Product-dominant groups

We begin by resolving [conj:miller_vissuet].

All dihedral groups \(D_n\) for \(n \geq 3\) are product-dominant

Proof. Let \(D_k\) be the dihedral group on \(k\) vertices. We have \[\begin{aligned} Z_k\ =\ \begin{cases}2 & k \text{ even}, \\ 1 & k \text{ odd},\end{cases} \end{aligned}\] and \[\begin{aligned} T_k\ =\ \begin{cases}k+1 & k \text{ even,} \\ k & k\text{ odd.}\end{cases} \end{aligned}\] Let \(Q_k,P_k,QQ_k,PP_k\) be as in [lem:PQPPQQ]. By [cor:FQ_asym], \(Q_k \geq T_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k}\). By [lem:FP_asym], \[\begin{aligned} P_k\ \leq\ Z_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{N_k} + (N_k-Z_k)\cdot 1.68^{N_k}. \end{aligned}\] Note that the Big-O notation around \(1.68^{N_k}\) could be dropped by the proof of [lem:lucas_asym] and [lem:FP_asym]. Furthermore, by [lem:double_bound], \[\begin{aligned} QQ_k &\leq \frac{N_k(N_k-1)}{2} \cdot 19^{N_k/6}, \\ PP_k &\leq \frac{N_k(N_k-1)}{2} \cdot 19^{N_k/6}. \end{aligned}\] By [prop:dom_ineq] and [lem:PQPPQQ], it suffices to find \(M\) such that \(k \geq M\) implies \[\begin{aligned} \frac{\left [ (T_k - Z_k ) \sqrt 3^{N_k}-(N_k-Z_k) 1.68^{N_k} \right ] ^2}{\left [ (T_k + Z_k ) \sqrt 3^{N_k}+(N_k-Z_k) 1.68^{N_k} \right ] \left [ (T_k + Z_k ) \sqrt 3^{N_k}+(N_k-Z_k) 1.68^{N_k}+N_k(N_k-1) 19^{N_k/6} \right ] } \\ > 1/2. \end{aligned}\] Recall that \(N_k=2k\). When \(k\) is even, the expression above evaluates to \[\begin{aligned} \frac{\left [ (k-1)3^k-(2k-2)1.68^{2k} \right ] ^2}{\left [ (k+3)3^k+(2k-2)1.68^{2k} \right ] \left [ (k+3)3^k+(2k-2)1.68^{2k} + 2k(2k-1)19^{k/3} \right ] }. \end{aligned}\] One can check that this expression is strictly larger than \(1/2\) for all \(k \geq 56\). When \(k\) is odd, the expression evaluates to \[\begin{aligned} \frac{\left [ (k-1)3^k-(2k-1)1.68^{2k} \right ] ^2}{\left [ (k+1)3^k+(2k-1)1.68^{2k} \right ] \left [ (k+1)3^k+(2k-1)1.68^{2k} + 2k(2k-1)19^{k/3} \right ] }. \end{aligned}\] One can check that this expression is strictly larger than \(1/2\) for all \(k \geq 55\). Thus, \(D_k\) is product-dominant for all \(k\geq 55\). Computational algorithms (TODO) make computation of \(M_1(G)\) and \(M_2(G)\) fast, and in particular it’s possible to compute them for \(D_k\) with \(k \leq 54\). However, computing the actual value for \(2^{|G|}-B\) is slow, but computing the bound \(Q_k +P_k\) is fast. Thus, via explicit computation, we determine further that \(D_k\) is product dominant for \(31 \leq k \leq 54\). The rest of the dihedral groups (\(k \leq 30\)) must be evaluated manually (TODO). ◻

All sufficiently large symmetric groups are product-dominant.

Proof. For symmetric groups \(\{S_k\}\) with \(k\geq3\), we have \(Z_k=1\) and \(T_k \geq \binom{k}{2}\), so \(Z_k = o(T_k)\), and Case (i) of [thm:mptqresult] applies. ◻

All sufficiently large non-abelian finite simple groups are product-dominant.

Proof. Let \(G\) be a non-abelian finite simple group. Then, \(Z=1\) since the center is a normal subgroup. Moreover, by the Feit-Thompson theorem [feit-thompson], \(G\) has even order, hence has an element \(g\) of order \(2\). Let \(\mathcal C_g\) be the conjugacy class of \(g\). Then, the action of \(G\) on \(\mathcal C_g\) by conjugation induces a homomorphism \(\varphi :G \to S(\mathcal C_g)\). If \(\ker \varphi = G\), then \(xgx^{-1}=g\) for all \(x \in G\), hence \(g \in Z(G)\) which cannot be the case. Therefore, \(\ker\varphi\) is a proper normal subgroup of \(G\), thus is trivial. So, \(G\) embeds in \(S(\mathcal C_g)\), and \(|G| \leq |\mathcal C_g|!\). Therefore, if \(\{G_k\}\) is a family of finite simple groups with \(|G_k| \to \infty\), we must have an involution \(g_k \in G_k\) for all \(k\), and since \(|G_k| \leq |\mathcal C_{g_k}|!\), we must have \(|\mathcal C_{g_k}| \to \infty\). Finally, every element in the conjugacy class \(\mathcal C_{g_k}\) must also have order \(2\), thus \(T_k \geq |\mathcal C_{g_k}| \to \infty\), so it follows that \(Z_k = 1 = o(T_k)\), and Case (i) of [thm:mptqresult] applies. ◻

6.2 Quotient-dominant groups

All sufficiently large groups of odd order are quotient-dominant.

Proof. Let \(\{G_k\}\) be a sequence of groups of odd order. Then, \(T_k=0\) and \(Z_k \geq 1\), so we immediately have \[\begin{aligned} T_k \cdot \sqrt 3^{R_k/Z_k}\ =\ 0\ =\ o(Z_k), \end{aligned}\] and Case (ii) [thm:mptqresult] applies. ◻

For finite abelian groups, due to their prevalence in relation to the classic MSTD problem (see [nathanson_history]), we go deeper to obtain a more concrete results. In terms of the orders of their elements, abelian groups can vary greatly. In fact, [noMSTDpenmanwells] showed that abelian groups of the form \(C_2^k\) are all balanced, but most other abelian groups are quotient-dominant, and in general abelian groups with many involutions will be harder to analyze, as \(Z_k\) and \(T_k\) from [thm:mptqresult] will be similar. Hence, a general classifying theorem is harder to obtain for abelian groups, but the following result gets closer to classification with some extra strategies.

Let \(G\) be a finite abelian group, \(2G = \{2g : g \in G\}\), and let \(m:=|2G|\). Suppose \(m\geq 6\) and \(|G| \geq 163\). Then, \(G\) is quotient-dominant.

Proof. Let \(T\) be the number of elements of order \(2\). Then the first isomorphism theorem on the map \(x\mapsto 2x\) gives \(|G| = m\cdot (T+1)\).

Let \(P\) and \(Q\) be as in [lem:PQPPQQ] (we’re removing the underscore \(k\) notation as it’s less necessary here). Then, \[\begin{aligned} P \ &=\ (N-m)\sqrt{3}^N + m\sqrt{3}^{N-(T+1)} \notag \\ &=\ mT\sqrt{3}^N + m\sqrt{3}^{N-(T+1)} \label{eq:abelianP} \\ Q \ &\leq\ T\sqrt{3}^N + (N-T)7^{N/4}. \label{eq:abelianQ} \end{aligned}\] Let \(Q^+ := T\sqrt{3}^N + (N-T)7^{N/4}\), so \(Q \leq Q^+\). If \(m\geq 6\), then numerical calculations on [eq:abelianP] and [eq:abelianQ] shows that for any \(T \geq 1\), \[\begin{aligned} M_1(G)\ \overset{\eqref{eq:M1_sum}}{=}\ Q - P \ \leq\ Q^+-P \ <\ 0, \end{aligned}\] so we’ll be able to apply (ii) from [prop:dom_ineq]. Recall from [lem:PQPPQQ] and [lem:double_bound], (with \(PP\) and \(QQ\) as in [lem:PQPPQQ], not to be confused with multiplying \(P\cdot P\) and \(Q\cdot Q\)), \[\begin{aligned} \frac{M_1^2}{(2^N-B)M_2} \ &\geq\ \frac{(Q-P)^2}{(P+Q)\cdot(Q+P + QQ+PP)} \notag \\ &\ge \frac{(Q-P)^2}{(P+Q)\cdot(Q+P+N(N-1)19^{N/6})} \notag \\ &\ge \frac{(P-Q^+)^2}{(P+Q^+)(P+Q^++N(N-1)19^{N/6})}. \end{aligned}\] Let \[\begin{aligned} u\ :=\ \frac{Q^+}{P}\quad\mbox{and}\quad v\ :=\ \frac{N(N-1)19^{N/6}}{P}, \end{aligned}\] so we have \[\begin{aligned} \frac{M_1^2}{(2^N-B)M_2} \ \geq\ \frac{(1-u)^2}{(1+u)(1+u+v)}. \end{aligned}\] By [prop:dom_ineq], it suffices to prove \[\begin{aligned} \frac{(1-u)^2}{(1+u)(1+u+v)} \ >\ \frac{1}{2} \end{aligned}\] which is equivalent to proving that \[\begin{aligned} f(u,v) \ :=\ u^2-6u+1 - v(1+u)\ >\ 0. \end{aligned}\] First, observe \(\partial f/\partial u = -4<0\) and \(\partial f/\partial v = -(1+u)<0\), so \(f\) is strictly decreasing in each of \(u\) and \(v\). We find an explicit upper bound for \(u\) and \(v\), which only depends on \(N\). We have \[\begin{aligned} u \ &=\ \frac{T\sqrt{3}^N+(N-T)7^{N/4}}{(N-m)\sqrt{3}^N + m\sqrt{3}^{N-(T+1)}} \notag \\ &\leq\ \frac{T\sqrt{3}^N+(N-T)7^{N/4}}{mT\sqrt{3}^N} \notag \\ &=\ \frac{1}{m} + \frac{N-T}{mT} (7/9)^{N/4} \notag \\ &\leq\ \frac{1}{6} + 2\left(\frac{7}{9}\right)^{N/4} \end{aligned}\] as \((N-T)/mT < N/mT = (T+1)/T \leq 2\). Moreover, \[\begin{aligned} v\ &=\ \frac{N(N-1)19^{N/6}}{(N-m)\sqrt{3}^N+m\sqrt{3}^{N-(T+1)}} \notag \\ &\leq\ \frac{N(N-1)19^{N/6}}{mT\sqrt{3}^N} \notag \\ &\leq\ 2(N-1)\left(\frac{19}{27}\right)^{N/6}, \end{aligned}\] since \(N/mT<2\). Thus, \[\begin{aligned} f(u,v)\ &\geq\ f\left(\frac{1}{6}+2\left(\frac{7}{9}\right)^{N/4}, 2(N-1)\left(\frac{19}{27}\right)^{N/6}\right) \ =:\ h(N). \end{aligned}\] Finally, it is not hard to show that \(h(N)\) is increasing for every \(N\geq 12\), and numerical analysis shows that \(h(N) > 0\) for all \(N\geq 163\), as claimed. ◻

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7 Computing \(M_1(G)\) by characters and conjugacy classes

We aim to find the length of the cycle containing a vertex \(x\) in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) to compute \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g\in G}i(\mathcal F_P(g)). \end{aligned}\]

Recall from 3 the definition of \(p_g^{(n)}(x)\). For \(g,x \in G\), let \(\ell_{g,x}\) denote the minimal positive integer \(\ell\) such that \(p_g^{(\ell)}(x)=x\). Thus, the cycle containing \(x\) in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\) has length \(\ell_{g,x}\).

If \(p^{(d)}_g(x)=x\), then \(\ell_{g,x}\mid d\).

Proof. Let \[\begin{aligned} S\ :=\ \left \{ p_g^{(n)}(x) : n \in \mathbb{Z}^+ \right \} \end{aligned}\] be the elements in the cycle containing \(x\) in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\). The action of repeatedly applying \(p_g\) induces a cyclic group structure on \(S\), where \(x\) has order \(\ell_{g,x}\) by minimality. By Lagrange’s theorem, if \(p_g^{(d)}(x)=x\), then \(\ell_{g,x} \mid d\). ◻

For any \(g,x \in G\), \(\ell_{g,x}\) divides \(2\operatorname{ord}(g)\).

Proof. By [lem:pgqg_forms], \[\begin{aligned} p^{2\operatorname{ord}(g)}_g(x)=g^{-\operatorname{ord}(g)}xg^{\operatorname{ord}(g)}=x, \end{aligned}\] so by [lem:divisibility] we have \(\ell_{g,x} \mid 2\operatorname{ord}(g)\). ◻

To determine the minimal \(\ell\) with \(p_g^{(\ell)}(x)\), it helps to know how many \(x \in G\) satisfy \(p_g^{(d)}(x)=x\) for a fixed positive integer \(d\). This can be computed with character theory, as the irreducible characters of a group provide counting formulas for the size of the centralizer of an element, and the number of square roots of an element.

For any \(g \in G\), \(d \in \mathbb{Z}^+\), let \[\begin{aligned} L(d,g)\ :=\ \#\left \{ x\in G: p_g^{(d)}(x)=x \right \} . \end{aligned}\] Let \(\chi_1,\dots \chi_n\) be the irreducible characters of \(G\), and let \(\nu\) be the Frobenius-Schur indicator \[\begin{aligned} \nu(\chi)\ :=\ \frac{1}{|G|}\sum_{h \in G}\chi(h^2). \end{aligned}\] If \(d=2k\) is even, then \[\begin{aligned} L(2k,g)\ =\ \left | C_G(g^k) \right | \ =\ \sum_{i=1}^n\left | \chi_i(g^k) \right | ^2. \label{eq:L_even_d} \end{aligned}\] If \(d=2k+1\) is odd, then \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:L_odd_d} L(2k+1,g)\ =\ \sum_{i=1}^n \nu(\chi_i)\cdot \chi_i(g^{-2k-1}). \end{aligned}\]

Proof. Recall that \(p_g^{(2k)}(x) = x \iff xg^k=g^kx\). Thus, \(L(d,g) = C_G(g^k)\). The second equality in [eq:L_even_d] follows from the orthogonality relations of characters.

When \(d=2k+1\) is odd, then by [lem:pgqg_forms] \[\begin{aligned} p_g^{(2k+1)}(x) =x \iff g^{-k}x^{-1}g^{k+1}=x. \end{aligned}\] Substituting \(x=g^{k+1}y\) yields \[\begin{aligned} p_g^{(d)}(x)=x\ &\iff\ g^{-k}y^{-1}g^{-(k+1)}g^{k+1}=g^{k+1}y \\ &\iff\ g^{-d}=y^2. \end{aligned}\] Our substitution induces a bijection on \(G\), hence the number of \(y \in G\) satisfying \(g^{-d}=y^2\) is precisely \(L(d,g)\). The number of square roots of \(g^{-d}\) is known in general to be \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{i=1}^n\nu(\chi_i) \cdot \chi_i(g^{-d}) \end{aligned}\] (see [isaacs2006character] or [rowe2022squareroots], for example). This proves [eq:L_odd_d]. ◻

that we’ve determined the number of \(x\) satisfying \(p_g^d(x)=x\), we apply the Möbius inversion formula which allows us to determine when \(d\) is the minimal positive integer where \(p_g^d(x)=x\). See [MobiusInversion] for reference.

Fix \(g\in G\). Let \(c(m,g)\) be the number of \(m\)-length cycles in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} c(m,g)\ =\ \frac{1}{m}\sum_{d\mid m}\mu\left(\frac{m}{d}\right)L(d,g). \end{aligned}\]

Proof. Define \[\begin{aligned} f(d) \ :=\ \#\{x\in G:\ell_{g,x}=d\}. \end{aligned}\] Then, by [lem:divisibility] we have \[\begin{aligned} L(m,g)\ =\ \sum_{d\mid m}f(d). \end{aligned}\] Thus, by the Möbius inversion formula, we have \[\begin{aligned} f(m)=\sum_{d\mid m}\mu(m/d)\cdot L(d,g) \end{aligned}\] where \(\mu\) is the Möbius function. This gives the number of \(x\in G\) contained in \(m\)-cycles in \(\mathcal F_P(g)\). We divide by \(m\) to obtain the total number of \(m\)-length cycles. ◻

Let \(G\) be a finite group, let \(\mathcal C_1,\dots,\mathcal C_n\) be the distinct conjugacy classes of \(G\), let \(g_i\) be a representative for \(\mathcal C_i\). Then, \[\begin{aligned} \label{eq:expecG} M_1(G)\ =\ \sum_{i=1}^n|\mathcal C_i|\left ( L_{\operatorname{ord}{g_i}}^{|G|/\operatorname{ord}{g_i}} - \prod_{m \mid \left ( 2\cdot \operatorname{ord}{g_i} \right ) }L_m^{c(m,g_i)} \right ) . \end{aligned}\]

Proof. By [lem:M1_sum], \[\begin{aligned} M_1(G)\ =\ \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g)). \label{eq:M1_mention2} \end{aligned}\] By the work done in 3 (namely [lem:disjoint_cycles], [rmk:lucas_forbiddance], and [lem:FQ_form]), as well as the definition of \(c(m,g)\), and [lem:divisibility], we have \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ = \ L_{\operatorname{ord}(g)}^{|G|/\operatorname{ord}(g)}-\prod_{m \mid (2 \cdot \operatorname{ord}g)}L_m^{c(m,g)} .\label{eq:idiffinlucas} \end{aligned}\] Moreover, from the proof of [lem:M1_sum], recall that \[\begin{aligned} i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g)) \ = \ \#\{A \subseteq G: g\in AA\} - \# \{ A \subseteq G: g \in AA^{-1}\}. \label{eq:subsetcontainment} \end{aligned}\] for any \(g \in G\), \(A \subseteq G\), and any \(G\)-automorphism \(\sigma\), note that \[\begin{aligned} g \in AA \ &\iff\ g = xy \text{ for } x,y\in A \\ &\iff\ \sigma(g)=\sigma(x)\sigma(y) \text{ for } x,y \in A \\ &\iff\ \sigma(g) \in \sigma(A)\sigma(A). \end{aligned}\] We obtain a similar equivalence for \(g \in AA^{-1}\). Therefore the expressions in [eq:subsetcontainment] are invariant under any \(G\)-automorphism applied to \(g\). In particular, they are invariant under the action of conjugation, so it follows from [eq:idiffinlucas] that \[\begin{aligned} \sum_{g \in G}i(\mathcal F_Q(g)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g))\ &=\ \sum _{i=1}^n|\mathcal C_i|\left ( i(\mathcal F_Q(g_i)) - i(\mathcal F_P(g_i)) \right ) \notag \\ &=\ \sum_{i=1}^n|\mathcal C_i|\left ( L_{\operatorname{ord}{g_i}}^{|G|/\operatorname{ord}{g_i}} - \prod_{m \mid \left ( 2\cdot \operatorname{ord}{g_i} \right ) }L_m^{c(m,g_i)} \right ) . \end{aligned}\] ◻

Using [thm:num_of_cycles_prod,thm:expthm], we obtain a simpler way to compute \(M_1(G)\) for groups whose character theory and conjugacy classes are understood. We elaborate on this below.

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8 Future work

[thm:mptqresult] establishes the product/quotient-dominant behavior for many families of groups. However, the limitations of the theorem provide two natural paths for future work.

  1. For groups that satisfy the conditions of [thm:mptqresult], such as those studied in in 6, it may be of interest to quantify exactly when the key inequality in [eq:dom_ineq] is satisfied (as we do for dihedral groups in [thm:dihedralgroups]). Then, the product/quotient-dominant behavior can be manually computed so long as the remaining groups to check do not get too large. (TODO: discuss/link to code?).

  2. For groups which do not satisfy the conditions of [thm:mptqresult], deeper analysis is required. In particular, these groups may not obtain the dominance of \(\sqrt 3^N\) terms in \(M_1,M_2,\) or \(2^{|G|}-B\). For specific families like dicyclic (or generalized quaternion) groups, it is necessary to analyze the lower order terms to identify when (or if) [eq:dom_ineq] can be satisfied. For this, formulations like [thm:num_of_cycles_prod,thm:expthm] could be useful.

On the topic of groups for which the conditions of [thm:mptqresult] do not apply, it’s important to make the following remark.

There exists a quotient-dominant group with \(M_1(G)>0\), namely the binary octahedral group (GAP ID (48, 28)). Furthermore, there exists a product-dominant group with \(M_1(G)<0\), namely \(C_6 \times S_3\) (GAP ID (36,12)). Therefore the method of proving dominance using the inequality in [prop:dom_ineq] does not work for all groups.

It would be interesting to understand what exactly causes counter-examples like this to occur.

Another natural direction may be to expand on the work of [ZhaoGroups, haviland, generalizeddihedral], by computing explicit asymptotic formulas on the proportion of subsets which are MPTQ or MQTP.

Finally, for groups which are particularly resilient to the methodology of [prop:dom_ineq], it may possible to apply more advanced statistical methods by taking higher moments of \(d(A)\). These can be understood with forbiddance graphs as follows: let \(A,B\subseteq G\) be subsets, and we’ll define the generalized forbiddance graph \(\mathcal F(A,B)\) to be the graph where the elements of \(A\) are forbidden “product-wise”, and the elements of \(B\) are forbidden “quotient-wise”. For example,

  • \(\mathcal F_P(g) = \mathcal F(\{g\}, \emptyset)\),

  • \(\mathcal F_{QQ}(g, h) = \mathcal F(\emptyset, \{ g,h\}),\)

  • \(\mathcal F_{PQ}(g,h) = \mathcal F(\{g\}, \{h\})\).

Then, one can show similarly to [lem:2nd_mom] that \[\begin{aligned} M_r(G)\ :=\ \sum_{A \subseteq G} d(A)^r\ =\ \sum_{j=0}^r \binom{r}{j}(-1)^{r-j}\sum_{\substack{g_1\dots,g_{r-j}\in G \\ h_1,\dots,h_j \in G}}i(\mathcal F(\{g_1,\dots, g_{r-j}\}, \{ h_1,\dots, h_j\})). \end{aligned}\] Using higher moments, it may be possible to obtain a stronger understanding of the distribution of \(d(A)\).



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